Most everybody thinks they’re underpaid for what they do. But in reality, there are a handful of select jobs where this claim is especially true. Here’s my take on the 10 most underpaid jobs. Unless otherwise noted, annual income figures are based on data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
After reading this list, if you think I’ve overlooked a particular job (like yours), please leave a comment and let me have it with both barrels. Just keep the profanity and ad hominems to a minimum.
10. Janitor
Average Annual Income: $23,500
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $45,000
Appreciation Meter: Office outcasts rarely invited to workplace birthday celebrations and promotion parties.
Why They’re Underpaid: In office buildings and schools all over the world, janitors quietly go about their job of picking up everybody’s mess. Their work is usually done behind the scenes, so it’s easy to overlook the fact that they often have to deal with some really messy clean-ups like throw-up and excrement. When they leave work the place is spotless. They do this knowing the next day they’ll just have to it clean up all over again. Talk about a Sisyphean challenge.
9. Youth Sports Referee/Umpire
Average Annual Income: $28,330
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $50,000
Public Appreciation Meter: Slightly above the small pox virus, but one notch below dog poop. Okay, okay — two notches.
Why They’re Underpaid: Without these extremely tolerant men and women, there would be no organized sports leagues for our kids. Despite that fact, the next time you want to pick-up a few fresh insult lines that would make a sailor blush, stop by your local park and take in a youth sports competition. When you consider all the abuse that these referees and umpires take on a daily basis, it is a wonder that anybody actually aspires to be in such a position in the first place.
8. Little League President / Board Member
Average Annual Income: $0
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $35,000
Public Appreciation Meter: More likely to be approached by folks carrying pitchforks & torches than “thank you” letters.
Why They’re Underpaid: I was a Little League President for two years, so I know what I am talking about here. For a volunteer, the hours are extremely long – upwards of 40 per week. Everybody is always upset at you, calling at all hours of the night to complain about trivial things. And when you’re not acting as the League’s pin cushion you’re playing psychologist, soothing the bruised egos of parents who all think their kid is the second coming of Derek Jeter. Good times.
7. Nurse
Average Annual Income: $65,130
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $150,000
Public Appreciation Meter: Not too bad, actually.
Why They’re Underpaid: This job often requires a cast-iron stomach and entails very long hours with sometimes-grumpy and uncooperative patients. I say anybody who has to assist with surgeries, change bedpans, insert catheters, give injections and sponge baths, and provide other general care and comfort to the sick and injured on a daily basis is almost by definition, underpaid.
6. Exterminator
Average Annual Income: $31,210
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $125,000
Public Appreciation Meter: Exterminated.
Why They’re Underpaid: Exterminators often have to work in dark and tight places. They’re often required to work with hazardous chemicals too. The worst part though is they’re constantly at risk of being bit or stung, or contracting rabies, hepatitis, or other diseases from vermin that most of us would just as soon never even have to look at: poisonous snakes, rats, black widow spiders, rabid raccoons, skunks, bats, gators, bees, mice, cockroaches, and rats. “Uh, Len, you said ‘rats’ twice.” I know – that’s because I really hate rats.
5. Septic Tank Servicer
Average Annual Income: $35,550
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $135,000
Public Appreciation Meter: “You mean somebody actually has to clean those things out?”
Why They’re Underpaid: Their job description stinks – and I mean literally: Clean and repair septic tanks, sewer lines, or related structures. Clean and disinfect domestic basements and other areas flooded by sewer stoppages. Withdraw cables from pipes and examine them for evidence of mud, roots, grease, and other deposits indicating broken or clogged sewer lines. By the way, I’ll give you two guesses what “other deposits” could be, and the first one doesn’t count.
4. Embalmer
Average Annual Income: $39,320
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $150,000
Public Appreciation Meter: Better than some professions, but not as good as most.
Why They’re Underpaid: When I was growing up I lived next door to a mortician. I still remember the empty industrial-sized containers of embalming powder he kept in his garage to store everyday stuff. My family became close with his and we did a lot of things together. Uncle Chuck was such a funny and easy going guy, which always amazed me considering his very somber duties at the mortuary, stories of which he shared freely with us kids as we became teenagers. One of his duties was embalming; it is a difficult and surprisingly physically demanding job. To this day I still remain amazed at how Uncle Chuck could be so easy going and carefree at home considering all the sadness and heartache he encountered on a daily basis at work.
3. Lineman
Average Annual Income: $54,300
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $200,000
Public Appreciation Meter: Only when the local power goes out.
Why They’re Underpaid: Not too surprisingly, this job regularly ranks among those with the ten highest fatality rates. This job is much worse than that of a professional tight-rope walker, as it combines nerve-wracking heights with extremely high electrical currents. If that doesn’t convince you, maybe this will. And if you have a few extra minutes, maybe even this.
2. Trauma Scene Clean-up Worker
Average Annual Income: $35,000 (according to answerbag.com)
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $250,000
Public Appreciation Meter: Dead on arrival.
Why They’re Underpaid: Did you ever wonder who goes in and cleans up the blood, guts and random body parts after major car accidents, homicides and other similar tragedies? I don’t think most people do — they just figure a site magically cleans itself up after the authorities leave the scene. I once spoke to a guy who used to do this for a living and he said the job is absolutely horrific and often requires superhuman intestinal fortitude and emotional control. Here’s a chilling job description that warns potential job applicants what to expect and here are some common tools of their trade.
1. Military Soldier/Sailor
Average Annual Income: $16,794 (First-year, enlisted)
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $1,000,000
Public Appreciation Meter: Getting better, but still not enough.
Why They’re Underpaid: The job of a soldier is, without a doubt, the most underpaid job in the world. In addition to being charged with putting their lives on the line on a daily basis in order to protect us and our way of life, the soldier’s job description also entails many of the difficult jobs previously mentioned. On top of that, they often have to do their jobs with minimal sleep, rations, and almost impossible living conditions. The freshest US recruits have to do all that for a base salary of just over $16,000 per year — and after their military taxes are deducted it’s even less. We should all keep that in mind the next time we think we’re underpaid for what we do.
So there you have it: the 10 most underpaid jobs. If you’re interested, you might also want to check out my list of the 10 most overpaid jobs — I’m sure that’ll ruffle a few feathers out there.
Bret Frohlich says
I can totally relate to job number 5, Septic Tank Servicer.
When I was 16, my uncle got me a job at Stinky Incorporated, over in Montclair. I was a minor, so I wasn’t allowed near any chemicals or excrement. So, I was basically the yard-dog and designated digger. I dug up septic tanks, washed the trucks and picked up after the guard dog.
Talk about a cr@ppy job, this was definitely it. No benefits, no future and a high probability of catching hepatitis. Two of my coworkers crashed in a pumper truck over the side of Mt. Baldy road carrying a full load. What a terrible way for these men to die.
I only lasted about six months.
Len Penzo says
Wow, Bret. Very sorry to hear about your coworkers; what a sad story.
I hope you got at least a little more than minimum wage for your efforts. Your experience makes my first real job as a grocery store box-boy seem like a real luxury job in comparison.
Bret Frohlich says
No, minimum wage was all and I worked pretty hard for it. Luckily, it only lasted a couple of months.
My second job I was a box-boy too and that was a luxury. Union pay, nice benefits and upward mobility to checker. I rode that job well into college. I guess I got a little smarter the second time around.
Jae Jun says
lol Len your posts crack me up.
One suggestion, can I put myself on the list? No evidence. I’m just convinced I’m underpaid
Meg says
How can you leave out teachers?! ~$30k for a job that requires AT LEAST a bachelor’s and often a master’s degree, plus usually extra classes and ongoing training to keep certification! And now that teacher’s planning periods are going the way of the dodo, the workload outside of school has increased even more making for VERY long hours without overtime. Plus, there’s the stress of all the changing requirements, the politics, the out-of-pocket expenses for class supplies, and having to deal with students that are often times not only annoying but even dangerous! And of course, everyone seems to think that they know more about education than their kid’s teacher and many will flat out say, “I pay taxes. That means I’m your boss.” And, my favorite, “Teachers don’t need to be paid more. That’s what they have husbands for.” (I am NOT making this up, either. These are only some of the reasons I decided to not become a teacher after all.)
Shine says
Yes, I agree with Meg. Teachers need to be paid more and appreciated more. They need to be compensated for doing what I think is a very important and delicate job – molding the minds and lives of their students.
Cindy says
Wow 30 k for a teacher! They must love the job and I am thankful for that I couldn’t do it. Thank you teachers you are special. You should try to relocate if possible where I live many make 80 k and great benefits!
Len Penzo says
@Bret: You know, the union bennies and pay were great back then, but have since come back down to earth. I made $14,000 when I was 18, as a part time checker – that’s roughly $35,000 in today’s dollars, not bad for a teenager. The worst part of being a box boy was going out into the rain to get shopping carts, and cleaning up really messy stuff like syrup (back when stuff was still stored in glass).
@Jae: Yes, Jae, you can put yourself on the list. For a job that pays more than yours, may I suggest you try your hand at becoming a professional Ponzi schemer – I hear they make a lot of money! 😉
@Meg: Teachers weren’t on the list because this article only considered the top 10 underpaid jobs. I lost my research notes for this article, but I if I remember correctly, teachers and Jae were tied for 11th place. 😉
Marcie says
When you consider that they cook, clean, run errands and do other duties I think stay at home moms need to be included on your list!
Cindy says
Get real Marcie. Taking care of your children isn’t work it is a privilege and part of being a parent. I just workEd 12.5 hours put in 2 catheters,, changed bedpans, bowel movements, passed meds 10 times and gave health teaching to a terminally I’ll cancer patient who is 29. Then I came home and did everything it takes to run my house. I wouldn’t change my job for anything but it doesn’t compare to sitting at home all day.
Len Penzo says
You know, Marcie, the Honeybee is a stay at home mom – so don’t think I didn’t take that into consideration! 🙂
There is no doubt that stay at home moms (or dads) deserve our respect. My mom did it all when I was a kid, cleaning, cooking, shopping and other errands, home improvement tasks, etc. – she often was even pressed into service doing the lawn work when my dad was out working long extra hours and I was still too young to do it myself.
That being said, however, you’ve got to admit there are some real perks to the job. In the end I didn’t include them on the list because I thought the other 10 jobs I listed had it just a bit tougher, in my opinion – and that pushed the moms into a tie at number 11 with teachers and Jae (whatever he does). lol
JJ says
I know someone who was a trauma scene clean-up worker. She’s been called to at least one scene where someone committed suicide with a shotgun. So she had to hunt down about 1000 pieces of buckshot that carried brain into/through the ceiling and walls. Then she had to clean up around five kilograms of human head that had been aerosolized and strewn about the room.
She doesn’t do that anymore
Len Penzo says
I don’t blame her, JJ. I truly do not know how people do that job, considering what they are paid.
Travis says
Interesting article here, and it’s definitely a shame that so many of those jobs, especially soldier, are so underpaid. Janitor too, as I always feel bad for those guys (and girls) having to clean up all that nasty stuff, only to get it get nastified again the very next day.
Uncle Sam says
You are a complete idiot.
Annual Income for you if it were up to me: $0.00
Hire Teen says
Nice post. Totally agree with you.
Meghan says
Thank you for making the American soldier the #1 underpaid job. I would say they are not respected nearly enough. My husband is a 100% disabled vet, awarded a purple heart and Distinguished Service Cross for his valor (just beneath the medal of honor for those who don’t know – he entered a burning building 5 times to pull guys out, took over a dozen rounds). If you want to help a soldier, please don’t say, “if there’s anything I can do let me know.” It’s insulting, 99% of people don’t mean it. Do something: offer to babysit if they have kids so they can have date with their spouse before deployment, write letters, cook a meal, repair something around the house. You think active duty guys have it bad. It took the VA over a year to process my husband, until then it was 70% of his base pay – about 600$ after health insurance. BTW we have to pay for health insurance and copays for his combat related care! Sorry if this has turned into rambling, but all soldiers, especially those wounded in combat, deserve the highest respect.
Len Penzo says
You’re very welcome, Meghan. I want to give a big thank you to your husband for his service and sacrifice. I also appreciate those terrific tips for ways we can all help our brave servicemen and women make their lives just a little bit easier. All the best to you and your husband.
Lillie says
As the spouse of a retired military servicemember (now deceased), I certainly agree that that the military is grossly underpaid. We take for granted the commitment they make to ensure that we are able to walk around, enjoy freedom and voice our opinions about how the government should work without rolling up our sleeves to do the job. Often I didn’t understand his dedication to the military, but after September 11th, it became even clearer.
Len Penzo says
Well said, Lillie. Our men and women in uniform are a very special breed, indeed, and we owe them our gratitude for defending this great nation of ours and putting their lives on the line for us.
Daniel says
I disagree with number one totally. If it was 1 million dollars everyone would go. It’s not even that serious. We haven’t had many die in the past 7 years and when they get out do u know how many jobs love hiring a man out of there? They get paid a ton. U my friend are wrong completely.
Len Penzo says
That is an, um, interesting take there, Daniel. I realize these are only opinions, after all, but for you to say that the soldier’s job isn’t dangerous because “we haven’t had that many of them die in the past seven years,” well, that is just flat out incorrect (to put it nicely).
Now pass me whatever it is you’ve been smoking, because I could use a little break from reality myself right about now. 😉
Hellbourne Frosthate says
Soldiers are not underpaid,
They are overpaid.
People brand them as heroes,
we don’t need to pay heroes.
And do your mother ask you for payment
for raising you?
It’s their responsibility as citizens.
And they have the luxury of having a respected death
when they die in duty.
Those people who thinks military job is underpaid are selfish but I don’t blame them because that is just a side effect of democracy and liberty where people pursue their own happiness.
Len Penzo says
Heh. Okay. It’s almost 8 p.m.; I think your weekend furlough from the institution is about to expire.
Rachel | 100k Jobs says
Post is good enough, but I also agree with Daniel in case one which is something irrelevant.It it was 1 million dollars most of them would have running behind the same & their would have been so human loss.
Len Penzo says
I think something is lost in the translation, Rachel. I truly don’t understand what you were trying to say in that last sentence.
Bryan says
How is it not true that a soldier’s job is not as dangerous as it used to be. They don’t have to worry as much about getting diseases or receiving meals. Especially with today’s technology they basically act as the clean up crew after the predator drones and other robotic war machines take care of the dirty work. More people died during the invasion of Normandy beach in an hour than the entire Iraq war.
Philip says
I’m assuming your speaking from a perspective as a combat vet of ANY conflict, or for that matter, even as just a Cold War soldier. If not you honestly don’t have the basis to stand on.
Len Penzo says
@Brian: Not as dangerous, maybe. But not dangerous? Sorry. It is still the most dangerous, thankless job around. Bar none.
ohsnap says
What??
Carol Streamer says
Back in 1974 I asked myself, “Are you more interested in having such as a public restroom and public transportation and a public library available to you or do you want a big paycheck.” Considering the nearest public restroom was 2 miles away and I had to no department store, fast food outlet, shelter, water source, place to sit down, etc.—I decided big salaries and big paychecks don’t always come with life’s necessities. Now I realize that some think the world owes them big time. However I was raised to understand I was merely a renter of space & possessions on this earth not a lifetime owner. As a caretaker many people have failed to do their bit to respect the soil, water, and air but have managed to complain about not getting their fair share. Greed is a deadly sin. It is oh so easy to find a reason for jealousy and to lose sight of what is really valuable to making life meaningful.
Len Penzo says
Interesting take, Carol. I appreciate you sharing your perspective. The thing is, the existence of public restrooms, public transportation, and public libraries largely depend on the taxes of people earning big paychecks. Without them, government wouldn’t have any money to spend on those items.
Kelly says
Thanks Len for including my profession(nurse) on your list. I’m in a low cost of living area and make about 10K less/year than your average salary you listed. I appreciate the recognition! I have been called every name in the book, kicked, spit on, hit, punched, bit,etc. On a daily basis too!
Len Penzo says
You’re very welcome, Kelly. Speaking as someone who at one time spent a few weeks in a hospital after a major car accident, rest assured there are a lot of people out there who appreciate all that you do! 🙂
Smoking No More says
Interesting. What about garbage collector?
Financial Bondage says
I agree with Janitor, having done that work myself. It is a thankless job that society looks down upon. Good list. I agree with the choices.
CNA's says
I think CNA’s are very well underpayed we do work that most people would not do and get minimum wage we need more money a nurse can make 40,000.00 a year and they don’t have to wipe butt and clean up after people they only yell at the CNA to do it for them.
Len Penzo says
Agreed. I just lumped certified nurses aids in with the nurses – both jobs are vitally important and underpaid in their own ways. 🙂
Cindy says
CNA are grossly underpaid. Nurses couldn’t do it without good CNAs. Go to a hospital you will make a decent wage and if you ever choose to persue nursing you have great experience. If not then you are valuable and I wish good CNAs made more.
Monique says
TEACHERS!!!!! TIED FOR 11! No WAY! Tied for #2 maybe! I’ll 110% give you military personel at #1.
Annual Income: $35,000
Annual Income If It Were Up to Me: $100,000 or more
Public Appreciation Meter: Getting worse daily
Why Theyre Underpaid: Without teachers there would be no doctors, nurses, lawyers, politicians, CNA’s, embalmers, linemen or many other occupations. You are intrusting the minds, mindset and future earning potential of an entire nation to people who make one tenth of the minimum salary of a rookie NFL player!
Take any one of the ten occupations that you have listed there and say to yourself would I walk up to this person and say: “Take my child. For the next 15 years please spend 8 hours a day for five days a week and share with him/her everything that they will have to use in order to become successful in this world. Cover my shortcomings, make sure they know how to properly interact socially, behave responsibly and eat properly. Oh yes I also need you to make sure that you use part of your meager salary to make sure that you are up to date on the latest and greatest trends and techniques in your industry. Please do that in you off time and do not let it interfere with my child’s time. By the way…he/she is bringing along 20 to 25 friends for which I am giving you the same responsibilty. I am going to provide you with a helper for one to two hours a day and that is all. Thanks! Oh if you do this for thirty years without stopping (only 20 with a soldier) I will give you a small pension so that you can live out your old age in poverty.” Then ask yourself again if it belongs at 11.
No I am not a teacher. I decided against it when i realized how underpaid, under appreciated and overworked they are in that occupation. I just have a great appreciation for the great influences that they have been in my life.
Sorry for the long rant but don’t even get me started on goverments cutting educational funds and then increasing taxes to build new sports areanas!
Len Penzo says
Well, Monique, I think you are writing a bigger job description for teachers than their union contracts say they are required to do; frankly, most of those jobs – teaching kids to eat properly, behave responsibly, and interact socially – are the responsibility of their parents.
Probably the biggest reason I didn’t put teachers on the list is that, when you consider they only work nine months out of the year, they aren’t paid that bad.
(I bet I just ticked off a lot of teachers.)
Philip says
Unfortunately with the rise of two working parent households, teachers are left to do many of the jobs that parents (or the stay at home parent) used to do.
Philip says
And don’t forget the continuing education requirements which often eats into the long summer vacation.
Rob Lewis says
I just read your article about overpaid professions, it’s instructive to compare athletes and coaches with teachers. The performance of athletes and coaches is constantly measured and reflected in their compensation. Hit the ball, complete the passes, Win the games and they are well rewarded. Fail to perform and they get to find a new job. On the other hand, the teachers’ unions have resisted any attempt to measure or pay for performance with great determination and success. Good teachers and bad, successful and unsuccessful are paid the same, and as teachers are government employees, dismissing even obvious non-performers is very difficult. One result of this is that all teachers are paid as if mediocre. As if it didn’t matter who the teachers were. I make more than any of the teachers who taught me, some of them were truly excellent and I’m grateful to them. I hate to see them treated the same as the duds, but as long as the unions have their way, that probably won’t change.
Len Penzo says
Well said, Rob. I too am grateful for some teachers I had — after all these years I still remember who they are and am thankful for everything they taught me. I also had some truly pitiful teachers. It’s unfortunate that teachers don’t overrule their union masters and DEMAND that they be paid based upon merit, like all non-union people do in the private sector. The good teachers would be rewarded with higher pay and the poor teachers would get smaller (or no) raises each year. It’s the fairest compensation system there is, and best of all, it encourages (most) everyone to perform at their peak proficiency. (I say “most” because there are always some folks who will just show up to get a paycheck.)
Philip says
I think you’re opening a can of worms. How do we separate good from bad? Add’l supervisors in the classroom? Student evaluations? No Child Left Behind has demonstrated that if passing is success, then children will be taught what it takes to pass a test.
Len Penzo says
I agree, Philip; NCLB is a disaster.
But you seem to be suggesting that evaluations for teachers are impossible. I disagree.
With two kids of my own who have been winding their way through the public school system for the last 10 years, I’ve almost always been able to identify their better teachers from the poorer ones. It’s really not difficult.
I’m an engineer who has been evaluated against hundreds of other engineers every year for the past 25 years. In all that time, the evaluations have never been absolutely perfect, but if I am being honest with myself, they have usually been very very close.
The only time I thought I got two “raw-deal” evaluations in a row, I left my employer for a new one. Why can’t teachers do the same thing?
I think principals have the means of properly ranking their teachers too. They can do it the same way it’s done in the private sector: setting employee-specific goals and then measuring how well they did in meeting or exceeding them. (And student test scores don’t even have to be part of that process!)
My $0.02 after taxes. 🙂
anonymous says
If the military was paid a million dollars the country would be in terrible shape. They don’t even need a college degree.
Philip says
You, sir or ma’am, are a moron. All officers are required to have at least a bachelors degree. For anyone to get promoted, officer or enlisted, college education is a requirement.
Justin says
A Trauma Scene Clean-up Worker really deserves to make as much as my father does? Really? I get what they do is extremely gross and requires a lot of physical labor, but it doesn’t take a masters degree or anything more than a few clean up tools. This reminds me of the time I overheard a worker for the landscaping company we hire complaining about how underpaid he was. If these service people can’t stand their meager salaries then they should consider going to school to obtain a higher paying career. I think this applies to a lot of the other jobs you mentioned. Maybe the post was sarcastic, but its ridiculous to think that a solider deserves a seven figure salary.
Steven-H says
Len, I am new to your site (lurking a few days now) & have to say to you, Thanks & keep up the good work.
And my wife an RN, has told me stories of “sometimes-grumpy and uncooperative patients” but they don’t compare to her stories of “sometimes-grumpy and uncooperative” DOCTORS. They can (& do) make nurses lives a real b!tch sometimes.
@CNA, don’t forget that ALOT of nurses were CNAs at one time.
Len Penzo says
Thank you, Steven. I hope you’ll become a regular reader — and commenter — here. (Oh, and you’re not the first person who has told me about grumpy doctors.)
Len Penzo says
Uncle Sam: Get in line. You’re not the only one who thinks that way.
Julie says
As a (rookie) cop & EMT, I’d like to add EMTs/paramedics and cops/deputies to the list. Heck might as well add the hose jockeys too. None of us went into emergency services for the money, we did it to help others. It would just be nice to be able to help our own families too. Btw- I agree whole heartedly with #1. From ’00-’04, I was in the Marines. By the time I separated from the service, I was making around $33-35K. Boy, did I feel like a fat cat! haha I was finally making enough to cover my bills!!
Tara says
Len: Obviously you do not have an understanding of a teacher’s daily life or their actual pay. A teacher starting out in Washington makes around $34,900 a year and on average have around 28 children. Let’s do the math…
$34,900/180 (Days) = $193.89
$193.89/6 (Hours) = $32.31
$32.31/28 (Students) = $ 1.15
So if you think paying teachers $1.15 per an hour per student to educate them and pick up where a lot of parents fail, then your crazy. Most of the teachers I know have to work an extra job or go overseas because they get treated better and paid more. Yes, you see students going to school for only 180 days during a school year but when do teachers grade papers, prep for class and meet with parents? They work more then 8 hours a day and then they usually get training during the summer so that students can have updated information. I wouldn’t even babysit for $1.15 per a kid per an hour why should we expect our teachers to not only watch kids but to educate them as well. My husband is a third year teacher and we just came from two years overseas where he got paid more and better benefits. The only reason we came back to the states is to be near family and start our own family. If it wasn’t for our family the states would be out another good teacher. Oh, did I mention, teachers don’t get to pick their vacations. My husband get three personal days off a year. Hopefully this will change your mind about those teachers who you assume only work nine months a year.
Len Penzo says
Hold on a minute, Tara; your logic is flawed! The number of students you teach is irrelevant — by your own accounting, your actual wage is $32.31/hr — with 3 months of unpaid vacation on top of paid national holidays! I know there are millions of people who would take that deal in a heartbeat.
Even so, you infer $1.15 per-hour per-student isn’t worthy pay for a babysitter, let alone a teacher. Okay. So how much SHOULD you be earning on a per-kid per-hour basis to babysit in your classroom? Perhaps $5 per-child per-hour? That would bump your salary to roughly $150,000 per year — with three months of summer vacation to boot! I know a bunch of engineers — and I’m sure a lot of lawyers and doctors too — who would quit their jobs for that deal.
By the way, even though it is unpaid, the biggest perk a teacher gets is those three months of summer vacation each year. Industrious people would eagerly take a second job during that time to further boost their income. Unfortunately, most people who aren’t teachers simply don’t have that luxury.
DayJobNuker says
Unfortunately nothing is fair in life and that includes what people get paid. Teachers get paid too little, most will agree with that, and yet in many states there are teachers who can’t get jobs. The biggest concern is attracting the good teachers and paying them enough to want to stay around.
Len Penzo says
I disagree with that that assertion, Nuker. I think most people would say they’re overpaid.
Mary Ellen Rossberg says
I’m not sure when all these replies/comments were done. I just came across your website and starting reading. For the most part I agree with your list of underpaid people. May I add a little bit on the teacher repartee? For 25 years I worked as a Clinical Laboratory Technologist (we do the lab tests on blood and body fluids, ever heard of us?). I decided to change to teaching because I wanted the time off in the summer. As far as a starting position, most states pay teachers generally fairly well. I think one of the things not realized is that our pay doesn’t go up much at all. In the past 5 years I have received a 2% increase. Even with a Master’s degree, it would increase by about 4%..As far as the summer off, it is nice, but it is unpaid and having not done work on my curriculum one year I can tell you I will never do that again. I can see you must live in a state or area with a strong teacher’s union (or know of one) since you mention them several times. The ever evolving requirements of a classroom teacher have increased over the past 25 years or so as parents have not always kept up their end of the bargain (I say this as my daughter does not for my grandson, it is very painful to admit it). I agree with the thought there are some bad teachers out there that can and do harm to students. But they are far outnumbered by the good ones. I think that anyone who has had a teacher in their family can relate to this. Also being held totally accountable for things not under our control is difficult. I strive to give my students all the extra help, time and opportunities to succeed only to have some that either just don’t care or are lazy and are supported by their parents to be “given” a grade to pass. Sorry about the length of this but as one that thought the same way as a lot of people before I started teaching, I just wanted to “educate”.
Len Penzo says
Thanks Mary Ellen for your comments. 🙂
Let me just say, come raise time, many many people in the private sector are ultimately held accountable for things that are not fully in their control. But that is a poor reason for rejecting unequal raises. In such a system, the best, brightest and most talented will always get justly rewarded over the long haul! Unless you are in the bottom 20% or so of teachers, you really have nothing to fear and much more to gain! As an engineer, good raises for me often depend upon the satisfactory performance of others; but that hasn’t stopped my average raise over 20+ years of service averaging 7 percent. Considering the alternative of smaller-but-equal raises for everyone — regardless of performance — I wouldn’t have it any other way. Competition is good for everyone. 🙂
R in NJ says
As for #1, I’m going to go ahead and say it shouldn’t be on this list, and here’s why:
One mistake that you’re making is making a gross overgeneralization. Not everyone is a rifleman or someone else who deploys and does society’s dirty work. Those people are certainly underpaid. But there are also a lot of military personnel who do things like serve as personnel clerks on military bases inside the US and who are pretty much civilians in uniform.
Also, you’re way off base with the 16k figure. You got that figure from the base pay of the lowest enlisted grade, E-1. That’s deceptive, because 1) Many enlisted at a rank or two higher due to advanced rank programs (ie complete a task list for the Army prior to shipping, and you get a promotion) 2) Due to the promotion structure and policy, even if you were to enter at that rank, you would get a raise in four months after shipping and a rank increase and a concurrent pay increase after a year, 3) You’re not factoring in tax-free housing and food allowances and other special pays. Once you factor those in to the above hypothetical entry-level service member on day one of training, they get paid about 34k, varying upon location and subsequent housing allowance. Granted, the housing and food are, especially at the beginning, in kind, so there’s lots of room for deadweight loss, but they are still paid more than your surface read would suggest. The 34k isn’t including healthcare and other fringe benefits that a lot of jobs that your average 18 year old high school wouldn’t be able to get.
Another factor you’re not considering here, and which is endemic to your analysis, is the difficulty of replacing a given entry-level service member. 34k is a pretty good salary for a job that doesn’t require for entrants any particular education or skill or screening aside from a basic medical/moral. Show up to a recruiter with a 100 IQ, a high school diploma or be in the process of getting one, in decent shape and health, and no meaningful law violations, and you’re good to go as long as they’ve got openings. If anything, most junior enlisted are overpaid.
Same logic for janitors: they get paid 23k because pretty much anyone can do that job. I’d know, I’ve done it.
There are two real tragedies: 1) non-commissioned officers, or mid and high level enlisted personnel, are grossly underpaid relative to their level of responsibility and importance 2) Pay equity: there is no justifiable reason why an infantry squad leader gets paid the same as personnel sergeant. Yet it happens all over the military and is a case of gross mispricing of skills.
Len Penzo says
Good comments, R. You make some good points. My only rebuttal to you is that this list is irrespective of supply and demand. Obviously supply and demand is a big factor in determining salaries. Because this list has an emotional component to it, it does defy logic in that regard.
ohsnap says
I was eating pepperoni pizza when I read the job description of the Trauma Scene Cleanup Worker.
Big mistake.
JACQUELINE WHITTINGTON says
REALLY! EDUCATORS DIDN’T MAKE THE LIST? HOW DARE YOU!
Len Penzo says
I didn’t put aerospace engineers on the list either.
Joe says
what about oil field workers?! we work our asses off so everyone else can have the luxeries they do. this website wouldnt be working right now if it werent for the services we put in. the only reason it seems like we make a little bit is because we work 300 hrs every two weeks leaving behind family friends relationships kids spouses and “lives”. I hardly ever get to see my wife and son but at the same time take pride in what i do cuz i make sure everyone else gets to enjoy them instead.
Len Penzo says
Maybe I’ll include them in the next update, Joe. So how much do oil field workers make an hour? If you say anything over $20 per hour, you’ll definitely be out of luck.
coach says
You keep saying three months summer vacation for teachers. I also coach two sports and therefore work everyday in the summers just like a lot of others. I have 3 preps and get 3 planning blocks every two weeks. During the season I work 7 days a week and over 80 hours for the week. I make about 41,000 k. Is that not underpaid? The idea that teachers have all this time off completely wrong.
Katherine says
I agree about the nurses being underpaid. Nurses deserve to be paid more with the kind of job they are doing – caring for the sick is service.
john says
how about firefighters???????????????????????????? they run in burning buildings to save your life or your home or pets and the base salary is between $20000 and $30000 a year
Len Penzo says
I appreciate what firefighters do. I really really do. However, they are definitely NOT underpaid. At least not where I live. Here, they make a decent living AND they get to retire — some as early as age 50 — with very generous taxpayer guaranteed pensions. By the way, approximately 70 percent of all firefighters in the US are volunteers. Just sayin’.
tracey says
I am a research tech at a major academic research lab and am currently doing cancer research. I do 10 hour days and have to come in on the weekends. In a couple of years I may get promoted to a research tech II position with an 8% raise but until then I have to find a way to live off $27K. And did I mention the job comes with 0 job security because at any time the government could stop funding your research? Research tech should def be on the list. People wonder why there is no cure for cancer?
Len Penzo says
tracey, as someone who works in aerospace — I know all about the effects of government cutting program funding at the drop of a hat. I live with that risk on a daily basis too!
Kevin says
As a Marine Corps Officer I have a few things to add. First, most people in the military dont join for the money. At least I didnt. I joined because I love this country and to keep our values the same. Second, I noticed someone above saying “they dont even need a college degree.” Well listen up dumbass. As an officer, in all branches, YES you do need a college degree. And you would be surprised at how many enlisted have college degrees but choose to stay enlisted because they like being enlisted, and on the officer side, as you move up in rank, it is required that you have a Masters Degree to get promoted. Now as for the phrase “soldier” which has been used a lot in this discussion, I take offense to being compared to a soldier. As a Marine I have done training unimaginable to most people. And when I start to bitch about being in the field for 3+ weeks, missing family, ect. I always say to myself “theres probably some genius working on the 37th floor of some corporation wishing he could do some of the stuff I do.” So I agree and disagree. Yes, we do deserve a lot more money for the things we do, but we didnt join the Marine Corps for the money, we did it because we love our jobs and love our country!
Len Penzo says
Great comments, Kevin. And thank you for your service to our country.
buy here pay here car lots says
Wow, Bret. Very sorry to hear about your coworkers; what a sad story.
I hope you got at least a little more than minimum wage for your efforts. Your experience makes my first real job as a grocery store box-boy seem like a real luxury job in comparison.
scott says
teachers, yup. they should make the list, but how in the WORLD has nobody mentioned one of the most important jobs in the world? COOK. try it sometime. put on a chef’s coat, be on your feet for ten hours plus, with no break – ever – in a very hot, dangerous place. there are dozens of ways to hurt yourself, and it happens almost daily. oh – and when you do, you don’t get to get stitched up or get the rest of the day off. you wrap it up, put on a glove or whatever, and get back to work. you get zero benefits, and $9/hour is typical. you work very hard, very fast, and have to know an incredible amount of information. a janitor has it easy, and makes four times as much. come on Len, engage your mind. educators, medical professionals, and COOKS, who make the food that keeps you alive are the three most important jobs in the world, and three of the lowest paid. it’s pathetic. a cook is MUCH more valuable to society than almost anyone else, and they get paid the very worst. it’s a harder job than any other on your list, period. 28 grand to be outside and call a baseball game for ten year olds? sounds great! try $12,000 a year to work in 120 degree temps while burning and cutting yourself. amazing you left cooks off of your list…amazing.
Sabrina says
Sounds like being an embalmer is literally a “dead end” job!
Len Penzo says
Rim shot! Good one, Sabrina!
Penny says
I am suprised about the Military worker salary. It should be very high. I hope that the teenagers who visit my website looking for jobs will consider what their future jobs will pay, and plan their education accordingly.
Elisa says
Actually, if you want underpaid, check out traditionally female sorts of jobs – which, again, are largely missing here, not that that surprises me: caring types of jobs almost always have very low pay. And, in fact, apparently in Astrala at least, women mostly earn less for doing the exact same job! Apparently we are less inclined to push for a pay rise, and no doubt descriminated against still, just because we ar female.
And, no, this is not feminist angst, it is sadly the way the world is today, still.
With caring types of jobs I hav heard als that our society just has this wrong idea of money being inherently dirty, and that people wh do good work therefore should not ge paid well
This is most unfortunate.
I volunteer at an animal shelter, all staff are female and roughly ninety percent of volunteers are too …women are just more inclined to take on caring roles. …but they work sx days a week, from eight or eight thirty to after six every time. They earn I believe it is the second lowest category of pay. There is resentment that I can sense, with bosses abusing their workers and for little things. And som ave an air of martyrdom.
Again, unfortunate. And I don’ believe that some people should av to give up so much just to do wor that is valuable and of a humanitarian nature.
Child care workers, aged care workers are another two that are underpaid, never mind how totally draining these jobs are.
I could be wrong, but I believe that you find men get paid better when they do dirty jobs, like garbag collection or sewer inspector. But women who wipe elderly peoples backsides and spend all day minding always on the go children, they have trouble living on their wage.
Burned Out Social Worker says
Honestly, I feel that you forgot to add social worker on this list. Despite having masters degrees and dealing with some of the most stressful and dangerous situations out there, our salaries run between $38k to $48k a year. A nurse (which you listed above) with an associates degree still makes tens of thousands of dollars more than we do.
I implore you to look into social work, the types of necessary services we provide to society, and the compensation (or lack thereof) that we receive. Then I ask you to reconsider your list.
Dave says
Well, other teachers already said my response…..so let me suggest Taxidermists for dead pets, especially birds or fishes……..
Larry says
I am the Umpire in Chief for my local little league, the league President (who I will be replacing next year) sent this to. Great article! Great list. Spot on! Nice job!
Len Penzo says
You have my sympathy, Larry. Good luck, my friend!
(By the way, you are a glutton for punishment: The Umpire In Chief AND League President????)
Tracy says
I am a nurse, most of the people who work with me in long term care are part time, so the company doesn’t pay benefits. We don’t get health insurance, and we work with lots of germs everyday. I will make about $30,000. People taking of your older relatives are paid much less than hospital nurses, and have many more patients.
Jodie says
Agree that military soldiers are drastically underpaid! They should be making ten times the money for the service they perform.
Nate says
I was in the USMC infantry in 2005-2009 and deployed twice to Iraq. I really don’t think my profession was the most underpaid one, I think we are more than fairly compensated for our services. Officers take home close to six figures after 4 years and junior/mid-level enlisted are clearing 50-70k after that same 4 years. And I know you will quickly run to the pay scales, but you forget the tax free BAH and BAS payments than can total an extra 2500 dollars per month tax free.